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		<title>By: jliu83</title>
		<link>http://www.engscope.com/2009/12/30/chip-design/comment-page-1/#comment-6237</link>
		<dc:creator>jliu83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kati,
  I&#039;m looking through the literature right now.  5K is actually not that bad.

-J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kati,<br />
  I&#8217;m looking through the literature right now.  5K is actually not that bad.</p>
<p>-J</p>
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		<title>By: Kati</title>
		<link>http://www.engscope.com/2009/12/30/chip-design/comment-page-1/#comment-6165</link>
		<dc:creator>Kati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again,
I got the info: Altera sells a Video &amp; Image Processing IP suite that includes a scaler: http://www.altera.com/products/ip/dsp/image_video_processing/m-alt-vipsuite.html The list price is $4,995 (much more reasonable than what you listed above.) In addition to the scaler core, there&#039;s an alpha blending mixer, color space converter, and other cores that are included in that price.
You might be interested in trying out one of our Nios Embedded Eval Kits (http://www.altera.com/products/devkits/altera/kit-cyc3-embedded.html) for $449. On this kit, you can run VIP designs, including dynamic scaling and clipping, using designs posted in the Nios Wiki: 
http://www.nioswiki.com/User:Suhel_Dhanani/Video_processing_designs_using_Altera_VIP 
I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions or would like to be introduced to a salesperson to get more info or details.
Kati</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again,<br />
I got the info: Altera sells a Video &amp; Image Processing IP suite that includes a scaler: <a href="http://www.altera.com/products/ip/dsp/image_video_processing/m-alt-vipsuite.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.altera.com/products/ip/dsp/image_video_processing/m-alt-vipsuite.html</a> The list price is $4,995 (much more reasonable than what you listed above.) In addition to the scaler core, there&#8217;s an alpha blending mixer, color space converter, and other cores that are included in that price.<br />
You might be interested in trying out one of our Nios Embedded Eval Kits (<a href="http://www.altera.com/products/devkits/altera/kit-cyc3-embedded.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.altera.com/products/devkits/altera/kit-cyc3-embedded.html</a>) for $449. On this kit, you can run VIP designs, including dynamic scaling and clipping, using designs posted in the Nios Wiki:<br />
<a href="http://www.nioswiki.com/User:Suhel_Dhanani/Video_processing_designs_using_Altera_VIP" rel="nofollow">http://www.nioswiki.com/User:Suhel_Dhanani/Video_processing_designs_using_Altera_VIP</a><br />
I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions or would like to be introduced to a salesperson to get more info or details.<br />
Kati</p>
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		<title>By: jliu83</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Northern VA.</description>
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		<title>By: Kati</title>
		<link>http://www.engscope.com/2009/12/30/chip-design/comment-page-1/#comment-6148</link>
		<dc:creator>Kati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I wanted you to know that I saw your request but didn&#039;t get a chance to find the pricing today. (I don&#039;t understand why we don&#039;t list it on our site!) I&#039;ll get back to you tomorrow...
BTW, where are you located?
Kati</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I wanted you to know that I saw your request but didn&#8217;t get a chance to find the pricing today. (I don&#8217;t understand why we don&#8217;t list it on our site!) I&#8217;ll get back to you tomorrow&#8230;<br />
BTW, where are you located?<br />
Kati</p>
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		<title>By: jliu83</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kati,

  I&#039;ll take a look at it this weekend.  I&#039;m not new to HDL work, so the basics are there, but it&#039;ll still be a great read to understand the differences between the Xilinx and Altera platforms.  I did my thesis using the Spartans so when it came time to make a purchasing decisions it was a no brainer (yeah.. I do the purchasing as well).

  I did hear from my colleagues that Quartus is a bit more intuitive than ISE, although I believe he said that 2 or 3 years ago.  Several revisions must have gone by since the comment.  Right now we are using Spartan 3&#039;s although we are looking to upgrade to the Spartan 6&#039;s in the coming year.  The major barrier to entry for us is the video IP toolset from Xilinx (and Altera).  Each module is something like $10K - $20K, which is just ridiculous (for a small company).  We ended up writing our own IP cores for all video processing (color correction, video capture, etc).

  There is a need for scaling in the near future, do you know what is the approximate price of a video scaling core from Altera?

-J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kati,</p>
<p>  I&#8217;ll take a look at it this weekend.  I&#8217;m not new to HDL work, so the basics are there, but it&#8217;ll still be a great read to understand the differences between the Xilinx and Altera platforms.  I did my thesis using the Spartans so when it came time to make a purchasing decisions it was a no brainer (yeah.. I do the purchasing as well).</p>
<p>  I did hear from my colleagues that Quartus is a bit more intuitive than ISE, although I believe he said that 2 or 3 years ago.  Several revisions must have gone by since the comment.  Right now we are using Spartan 3&#8242;s although we are looking to upgrade to the Spartan 6&#8242;s in the coming year.  The major barrier to entry for us is the video IP toolset from Xilinx (and Altera).  Each module is something like $10K &#8211; $20K, which is just ridiculous (for a small company).  We ended up writing our own IP cores for all video processing (color correction, video capture, etc).</p>
<p>  There is a need for scaling in the near future, do you know what is the approximate price of a video scaling core from Altera?</p>
<p>-J</p>
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